Killing In The Name Of…

Getting a lot of interesting feedback regarding my Nidal Malik Hasan post, and wanted to take the time to respond to some recurring themes in the responses.  I’m gonna tackle them piecemeal so as to hopefully be more clear.

  • In initially writing on Hasan, I opened up the discussion with examples of sociopathic mass murders from all different cultural and ethnic backgrounds and I think my use of sensational figures may have overshadowed some of the point I was making. I used these famous killers to highlight the fact that, in my opinion, their mental health/states was infinitely more important than their cultural background. It wasn’t to say that they were of no relevance; rather, it was to say that they were not of supreme importance. I used names that would grab the attention of readers from jump, but may have erred in the parallel due to the fact that the examples I used were sociopaths in a class by themselves, a group to which Hasan may not belong.
  • I don’t get down with Hasan. What he did was of SUPREME wackness and whatever happens to him at this point gets the Kanye Shrug from me. I do care that we not allow his actions to speak for all Muslims. They do not.
  • My use of “crazy” was deliberately vague; not because I didn’t care to qualify my statement, but because I was writing/speaking in the conversational shorthand of our day e.g. that’s crazy, this thing is crazy, wow that’s nuts, etc. On this issue, specificity should have ruled the day.
  • In my mind, gunning down 43 people classifies you as mentally unwell and it is through that lens that I try to consider someone’s background. When I hear about someone killing an abortion doctor, I don’t think to myself, “See, the Bible made him/her do that.” I think “Oh, boy. Another mentally unwell person has been reading the Bible and freestyling.” Same goes for the Quran.
  • Some made mention of the Crusades and said that those who complained about them could not turn a blind eye to the Muslim equivalent. The reader went on to essentially highlight Islam’s violent nature, which seemed to me an indictment of the religion (and the people who practice it). Here’s my take: Islamic extremist and those who go on Christian Crusades are dangerous, deluded individuals who shame their respective faiths. While I understand the texts to be as problematic as they are enlightening, my personal interpretation does not leave room for suicide bombers and those who kill abortion doctors. The problem that arises is not unique to holy texts, but is indeed suffered by any word available to the masses: People read and glean what they want from it. Because it is available to anyone, anyone can read and take what they wish with little to no impunity. In order for ideas and discourse to flow, it has to be that way and we should want it to be that way. Still, the trade is the trouble that comes to pass from given reality. The Bible and the Quran–public texts that deal in the already controversial topic of religion–are often, in my personal opinion, done outrageous disservices by people who interpret them from a terribly skewed perspective for often personal reasons. And some of these people are just mentally unstable.
  • A reader brought up the issue of National Socialism in Nazi Germany, making the point that calling all of those individuals who killed millions of Jews–and others–crazy was insufficient and doesn’t give credit to the political ideology. That’s  a fair point–and one that makes me regret not defining “crazy” as I see it. Still, a few things should be considered when thinking on Nazism, the Bible and the Quran:
  1. Whereas the Bible and Quran are documents written in their time that have had the opportunity to develop and be interpreted in various ways over the course of several centuries, the rise and fall of Nazism took place in the last seventy years. As a major political force, it was born, developed and died. In terms of influence, the interpretation of its teachings and policies are limited. There hasn’t been much time to wonder what Hitler and company meant.
  2. More important than the short terms of development is the language used by the Nazis. They were explicit about what they desired. They wanted to exterminate Jews and went about doing that. People often forget that concentration camps were not the first step in the eradication of the Jewish population in Germany. There’s nothing oblique about what Hitler wanted and (thankfully) not enough time passed to what he meant. I would argue that those who were persuaded by Nazi rhetoric range from the truly sociopathic to the incredibly frustrated soul that needed to feel better than someone and lacked the moral fortitude to not participate in heinous acts of inhumanity. I personally don’t classify that as being ‘well.’

As usual, the discourse and joust is greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading.


3 Comments on “Killing In The Name Of…”

  1. Drew says:

    I think my problem with religious texts is not simply their content, but the _attitude_ that religions imbue faithful readers with. The idea that HERE is wisdom: that THIS text contains special and uniquely authoritative insights into morality and truth above all other sources… that is what is so dangerous.

    Because of course people can and will read out what they want from these texts. That’s true of nearly any source of information. The problem is that religion inherently allows many people to read out what they want… and then decide that the entire UNIVERSE stands morally behind whatever they decide the text is telling them to think or do.

    THAT is poisonous. Because it often allows people to overcome their natural/acculturated moral senses and do things they could never otherwise justify. There are many other ways to do that, of course, and there are true sociopaths among us that never had much moral sense to begin with. But it’s still a bad thing to have and promote a cultural understanding that says that there is such a thing as an ultimate magical text or authority can contain ultimate wisdom that need not be checked/questioned/argued/disagreed with.

    That’s deeply, deeply illiberal (in the classical sense: the enlightenment sense). The hallmark of modern liberalism is that there IS no final authority, no place where anyone can stop and say “well, I’ve got all this figured out now, no need to ask questions, or keep consulting my conscience, or talk it out with other people.”

  2. Nabeel says:

    Drew, well put. The problem is a CULTURAL MISUNDERSTANDING. The Quraan is the final word, but only as a guide and it is meant to be interpreted in light of current scenarios and there is a strong tradition of using what is popularly called the Socratic method for progressive and meaningful conversations in Islam.

    There is no such thing as blind faith; only some things are classified as ghaib, or ‘hidden’, such as the meaning of the first verse of Surah Al Baqarah – it consists of three characters, no words.

    Some things are meant to be taken as ultimate commands, such as the ‘no alcohol’ rule. it’s expressly forbidden and honestly, it’s easy to see why. i have nothing against anyone who drinks, it’s a personal decision, but if god has asked me to not do so and to not aid the distribution of alcohol, i completely understand that. ditto for pork.

    Please see http://tinyurl.com/zjf5n for a brief overview.

    The concept of authorities in Islam is promoted by self-styled religious scholars and leaders who have developed a following and want to keep and increase that power, largely for personal gain. They will tell their (mostly illiterate, uneducated, susceptible to emotional influence, and underprivileged) communities that their advice is correct and cite verses out of context to support their claims. they don’t ask their pupils/followers/communities to read and try to understand the Quraan on their own – but here’s the interesting part – Allah does.

    Any thoughts?

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